trials meeting

[pearcey]

Hi Guys,

I would like to get together on Wednesday the 13th of April at 7.30pm at my
place (35 Greens Rd Wyndham Vale, Werribee)to go over a few issues:-

Delegation of roles and responsibilities

Organise the next seasons calendar

Finalise the transition to UCI rules at comps

Formalise the way all FTF demos are run through "Qranken"

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Please let me know if there are any other issues we should discuss (from
riders who cannot make it as well) so that people can be briefed before hand
to resolve issues in the most efficient manner. If there are any other
people that you think want to get involved in the committee feel free to ask
them to come along.

Can you let me know if you are attending (for catering purposes!).


Cheers


Rod Smith



any ideas???

[pearcey]

one idea i had was that elite lines should be bunted all the way through to get rid of stratigic dabs, they are run at different times so why not? if you cant make it through certain lines, you dab out.

[ash]

I don't think that bunting will get rid of stratto dabs, but i do think it will get rid of the 'lower gate problem'

if the sections are fully marked out with bunting, there is only one line to take with 2 gates, in and out...

I agree it would be good, but it would be harder to setup, and limit the options for lower class lines. I think that if people are willing to go to that much effort, it would be better spent on an expert class...

just a thought

[tomac]

well Tobe Rush (Melbourne) is attending I believe, I think that, given how well some of us know him, he can be a defacto Canberra representative (there's no shortage of other victorian reps) if nobody from Canberra can go.

Can anybody from Canberra go? I can't.

I think that, as far as rules are concerned, UCI unmodified is fine except for the gears rule, which will force people to change their bikes from everyday setup - the complete opposite of the original intention of the rule.

I agree Craig, elite shouldn't be able to strato dab as much as currently. Having plenty of bunting available and leaving it up to the course setters is probably the best solution though. It should be noted in any Australian Trials "guidebook" or whatever.

- Joel

[pearcey]

very true
evey section has the potential for someone to strato something even if some bunting was put up in the middle of sections saying that whey have to do this and that but anything else goes.

in one of the koxx vids i remember a section which bunting inthe middle of it so that might be the answer

[ash]

i realise this is a mute point, but like joel said the strato problem is up to section setters. The trouble is that the option is there becuase of two reasons as i see it.

1) there isn't enough room in most comps to space objects away from each other, so people use them to put a foot on so they can lift their bike through a gate... if you get me. half the time this happens cause the rider takes a forced dab, and then uses it to their advantage if they can, and most of the time thats ok... but

2) Gates that are close together encourage some people to hold the bike in the air and "wave it" through the gate(s). I'm not an expert on the rules, but i think that to counter it the scorers need be vigilant in making sure that the axles go through. I think that the rule should say that each gate must be done in complete order; meaning that if you try it you need to put the front then rear through gate 1 before you can pass either axle through gate 2.

oddly enough, its really not a problem because in comparison to the riders winning at comps, the stratto crew still don't hold much sway anyway.

rant rant rant

~ Ash!

[tomac]

that's right, it's rare that people win by strato-ing.

- Joel

[pearcey]

well maybe just bunting certain areas???
just so that you have to do it.

[Tobe]

Hey guys, just to answer a couple of your questions. We decided that more bunting and less markers are a good idea and plan to implement it.

We also talked about the fact that making it through a section requires a mental as well as a physical effort. With this taken into account, its often the smart rider that makes it through. So whether its by dabbing or not, its all a part of trials as a sport.

The gear rule is still under discussion, and I am definitely plugging for your team because we want you guys to be more involved and its difficult from so far away.

Tobe.

[pearcey]

thanks for the update