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Post by bonghitwonder on Jul 23, 2003 13:30:45 GMT 10
ok i know there are heaps more brands out there. but i think this is a good mix of trials frames! If you have another preference plz list!!! THIS is just my attempt to liven up the trials board with trials talk and not putting shit on ppl.  enjoy! |
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Post by alex markwart on Jul 23, 2003 14:54:17 GMT 10
from that list, i would either go for an ashton, or a fully custom desalvo. Thye would both be sweet arsed frames, both riding and looking superb. next question would be aluminum or steel, or koxx hmmm  nice thread dan  |
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Post by charlie on Jul 23, 2003 15:45:46 GMT 10
i reckon either ashton or megamo...
where is megamo made?
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Post by Sean on Jul 23, 2003 15:47:29 GMT 10
ECHO ECHO ECHO ECHO ECHO ECHO ECHO ECHO ECHO ECHO ECHO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by charlie on Jul 23, 2003 15:50:05 GMT 10
actually, now that i think about it... alexx's koxx is pretty sweet as well... it would come down to price... and weight!
i love light bikes... so which ever is the lightest for the least money (are ashtons light?- if so, then im voting for ashton)
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Post by rangers on Jul 23, 2003 16:34:34 GMT 10
Go Ashton, as they are British..
Why no PX???
Leeson and Megamo are sick too
Ben
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Post by Seb LG on Jul 23, 2003 17:03:47 GMT 10
ehehe, i agree with sean.....xept i would put LEESON infront of echo......but i dont like the way they are going with the new prototype Clear 660P3.......with the brake on the chainstays instead of seatstays.....thats a bit "over-impulsive"....but who knows! it might be hella good!....and its a change i suppose....
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Post by tomac on Jul 24, 2003 9:29:04 GMT 10
I think custom jobs are the way to go...sevencycles, merlin, and litespeed do the best custom titanium jobs and there are a whole host of custom steel places out there (desalvo being one of the better ones for trials bikes and cost)
but I would get a custom litespeed ti job...6al4v ti with custom ti forks as well...I think I've posted my thoughts elsewhere...they also do bars and stems made to measure - I love the look and properties of ti...can't get over it...makes alum. look so cheap and brittle...
- Joel
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Post by Seb LG on Jul 24, 2003 16:35:37 GMT 10
is titanium lighter ? and is it more expensive?....hmmmm, just wondering .
yeah a custom job would be cool if u knew alot about trials geomatry and all the rest, but if i asked for a custom job i would probably end up with a unicycle or something
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Post by AlexPV on Jul 24, 2003 20:22:16 GMT 10
titanium has similar properties to steel however it is much lighter and it is very expencive.
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Post by Andre Q on Jul 26, 2003 3:34:11 GMT 10
Interesting to note that steel bikes are becoming a favourite. Are steel bikes the way of the future? I think so. Unless titanium comes down in price (which it hasn't in 10 years) but still titanium is no stronger and only fractionally lighter than a well made steel bike. and if it breaks (which it will) good luck trying to find someone who can weld it.
Oh and I would pick desalvo off that list but after inspecting the frame I think the Pashley has better craftsmanship and you cant go past reynolds 853 as the choice of steel. But pashley are going the way of the seatless so Desalvo it is.
Viva la revolution!!! Long live steel.
Andre
P.S.Megamo is from spain
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Post by sherro on Jul 26, 2003 17:57:38 GMT 10
hay how come trials bikes arent made from 4130 chromo (if they r tell me) cause thats wat they make BMXs out of the are strong and can be fairly light? i dunno just a thought
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Post by Seb LG on Jul 26, 2003 18:14:29 GMT 10
ok....sherro, they make bmx's out of that!(as u say)...enough said...
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Post by tomac on Jul 26, 2003 19:29:19 GMT 10
andre,
a good side note of using titanium, other than its physical properties, is that because of its value and difficulty in welding, it tends to be made by very experienced manufacturers and welders who do a very good job...I agree a steel frame well made can be quite light and certainly strong, but flexy due to the thinness of the tubing (steel fans call this 'forgiveness' or 'give' not flex)... titanium frames also are not as stiff as aluminium ones, but this is not because of the metal itself...titanium and steel per volume of material are much stiffer and stronger but aluminium tubing is always a lot larger and thicker than steel/ti (because aluminium is inherently weak, although light per volume) which makes aluminium frames stiffer in the end !
although on the stiffness note (this is all well-researched theory BTW everyone, never ridden a ti or steel bike for long enough to know) I think aluminium frames are a little too stiff for my liking...after switching to the echo pure frame (U6/7000 series alum) i noticed a huge increase in frame stiffness, which translates, to me, into a harsh, aggressive ride feel at times...makes everything feel rough and unsmooth...I would love to have a ti/steel (6al4v/reynolds/columbus...mmm) bike made in the echo 1080 geometry for me...again, sponsorship offers are always welcome...
and the reason 4130crmo is not used in mtb is because, although strong (more like tool steel than anything else :-) it is really really really heavy...ever picked up a bmx freestyle/dirt jump bike? almost as heavy as a downhill bike/small car...way overkill for mtb/trials...
- Joel
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